tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post1598711587637075497..comments2024-03-25T14:09:59.347-05:00Comments on Augoeides: Casting a Healing or Learning SpellScott Stenwickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-77507848065141058612022-07-30T17:05:12.315-05:002022-07-30T17:05:12.315-05:00This linked article is a much more recent version....This linked article is a much more recent version. I have changed a few things about how I do Mercury operations since back in 2008.<br /><br />https://ananael.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-planetary-work-mercury.html<br /><br />If you just are casting on yourself you don't need a containment structure, since your sphere of sensation is the default target of any operation.<br /><br />That being said, you can probably get this one to work. I just think the more recent version works better.Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-91671906407932380542022-07-30T04:29:19.969-05:002022-07-30T04:29:19.969-05:00Hi Scott. Is this publication operational? I ask b...Hi Scott. Is this publication operational? I ask because it's from 2008. I'm thinking of using it to make a spell to help me with my studies. Don't I need a containment structure? Just "my body", imagination and a candle? Thanks.Desmond G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12759842044027917921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-18557459944486545352016-08-31T13:48:02.593-05:002016-08-31T13:48:02.593-05:00There is definitely a pattern in 777 and I began w...There is definitely a pattern in 777 and I began working on the transliterations by comparison with the angel names there. Thank you again for making it easier for me! :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-63602256786675599132016-08-31T12:47:23.901-05:002016-08-31T12:47:23.901-05:00So if you are looking at angels, the -iel ending i...So if you are looking at angels, the -iel ending is yod-aleph-lamed, the -uel ending is vav-aleph-lamed, and the -ael ending is aleph-lamed. That should simplify it for you a bit. You would not use a Heh for the E in any of those cases.<br /><br />Otherwise, take a look at the "Geomantic Intelligences" column in 777 that gives a bunch of angel names along with their Hebrew spellings. You should be able to tease out patterns from it - at least, that is how I would do it.<br /><br />Example - for angels like Raphael and Gabriel you wind up dropping the first A, so any angel names with similar construction should do the same. So Barbiel would be beth-resh-beth-yod-aleph-lamed. E's are also dropped in a lot of cases, so I would think Jazeriel would be yod-zayin-resh-yod-aleph-lamed.Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-62719667858417855882016-08-31T12:29:04.930-05:002016-08-31T12:29:04.930-05:00I was afraid it would and up this way :)
I guess ...I was afraid it would and up this way :)<br /><br />I guess I'll have to find the right spelling. Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-59789014271124176102016-08-31T10:43:08.938-05:002016-08-31T10:43:08.938-05:00For Hebrew words like angel names, you want to fin...For Hebrew words like angel names, you want to find the Hebrew spelling and use that. The language does not transliterate directly letter by letter. With the elemental kings, nobody knows where the names came from. It likely is not Hebrew, so you have to work with what you have.<br /><br />Crowley often used Heh for E, since the letter E does not exist in Hebrew. However, an E that you pronounce more like an "ah" sound in English should usually be rendered as Aleph instead. The transliteration system is not entirely definitive, since as a language Hebrew is so different from English. Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-117547176621321832016-08-31T08:47:34.609-05:002016-08-31T08:47:34.609-05:00Quick question: when creating the sigils of the le...Quick question: when creating the sigils of the letters, should I transliterate each Latin letter into its Hebrew counterpart? I've seen that 777 doesn't do that. For instance Raphael is transliterated as Rphal... I've seen you transliterated each letter of the elemental kings in order to produce their sigils. I'm also having a hard time in finding each Hebrew counterpart. I see that 777 has X as Sadhe (final), which is weird, but i guess it'll have to do. I also can't find the correspondence for the letter E. According to 777 transliterations it should be Aleph, but i also found He as the corresponding letter :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-25890188857396354212016-08-30T03:19:09.071-05:002016-08-30T03:19:09.071-05:00And a LBRP closing for both.And a LBRP closing for both.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-29298447811014658962016-08-30T03:17:07.178-05:002016-08-30T03:17:07.178-05:00I've also found Warnock's book here https:...I've also found Warnock's book here https://books.google.ro/books?id=TvAbAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA29&lpg=PA29&dq=lunar+mansions+ritual&source=bl&ots=NYeVpAYYpe&sig=qNYdGWSc_ye644TZsGbTDRZB8fw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiujqX23ufOAhWDwBQKHW5FDeQQ6AEIHTAC#v=onepage&q=lunar%20mansions%20ritual&f=true <br />Hope you'll be able to see it if you choose to read a bit. The ritual is described starting on page 29. There are 2 ritual methods described, and they are quite simplistic.<br /><br />I think I'll do two rituals. The first one is gonna be like this: operant field-MP-GIRH of Luna, with the general invocation and opening of the veil along the way, and I'm gonna conjure the mansion and it's lord as described in the book, by coloring the talisman and passing it through the incense smoke while reading the specific prayers.<br /><br />In the second one I'm gonna use the GD steps after the GIRH of Luna - read the Moon conjuration from the book them call upon Shaddai El Chai x9, Gabriel x9, the intelligence of the intelligences x9 and instruct them to send the specific angel in a containment structure - the sigil of the specific angel will be placed upon the talisman in the structure. I'm gonna use the conjuration from the book the book when I'll call the specific angel to manifest inside the triangle and empower the talisman.<br /><br />Now I only have to study each mansion and figure out which talisman I need.<br /><br />I'll get back to you with the results. This might take some time. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-63872899999195955282016-08-30T00:50:22.371-05:002016-08-30T00:50:22.371-05:00Right, that is exactly how I would go about doing ...Right, that is exactly how I would go about doing it. But what, then, do you do with the sigil for the intelligence of intelligences? It seems to me that all you would need is the sigil for the mansion angel to get the job done.Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-85785775613257143702016-08-29T18:27:52.790-05:002016-08-29T18:27:52.790-05:00So perhaps their sigils could be made using the lu...So perhaps their sigils could be made using the lunar kamea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-88525823277551275792016-08-29T18:23:00.863-05:002016-08-29T18:23:00.863-05:00I've found the angels of the mansions in Agrip...I've found the angels of the mansions in Agrippa's Book 3, chapter 24: Geniel, Enediel, Amixiel, Azariel, Gabiel, <br />Dirachiel, Seheliel [Scheliel?], Amnediel, Barbiel, Ardefiel, Neciel, Abdizuel, Jazeriel, <br />Ergediel, Ataliel, Azeruel, Adriel, Egibiel, Amutiel, Kyriel, Bethnael, Geliel, Requiel, <br />Abrinael, Aziel, Tagriel, Alheniel, AmnixielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-13496886950281020252016-08-29T06:17:11.983-05:002016-08-29T06:17:11.983-05:00I will certainly let you know how it went and what...I will certainly let you know how it went and what the results were. I can't seem to find that damn book as a pdf though :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-87621561085219730392016-08-28T14:03:09.234-05:002016-08-28T14:03:09.234-05:00It just seems kind of odd that you would not have ...It just seems kind of odd that you would not have a collection of 28 sigils for the difference mansion intelligences. Usually that is the way grimoire magick works.<br /><br />Otherwise, why not just use the character of the Moon by itself and call forth the mansion intelligence by the god-name? It seems that would be no less effective, and has the advantage of being easier. The whole point of a specific sigil is to have a visual representation of the spirit's specific name.<br /><br />Of course, I'm speculating here, since I've never tried either version of those operations. If you do get a chance to test it out, let me know how it goes.Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-41560297411042932572016-08-28T12:10:48.120-05:002016-08-28T12:10:48.120-05:00I suppose the sigil of the I. of I. is meant to be...I suppose the sigil of the I. of I. is meant to be used in order to conjure them as a whole and then instruct them to bring forth the specific lord or lady that rule a certain mansion. In that case, I don't know why Agrippa didn't mention it in the book.<br /><br />Thanks for adding the ritual steps! Once I get hold of Warnock's book I'll give it a try.<br /><br />Something still puzzles me. From what I know, the primary use of the mansions is the creation of talismans. In this case I think a spirit would be more suited for the task, it being closer to the physical realm than an intelligence. Perhaps the lords are then intelligences and the ladies, spirits, and the former would command the latter to empower the talisman. In any case, I'll get back to you with further details once I'll do a ritual.<br /><br />PS: Franz Barton names 28 intelligences of the Moon in this book<br />http://www.hermes-press.com/bardon1.htm#uranusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-59981273411209606812016-08-28T11:11:47.620-05:002016-08-28T11:11:47.620-05:00Okay, and that is all fine and probably workable, ...Okay, and that is all fine and probably workable, but what does it have to do with the sigil for the intelligence of intelligences? It seems to me like with that method you would not need it all. The point of the sigil is to identify a specific entity or principle.<br /><br />You would adapt to an operant style ritual like so:<br /><br />LBRP/LIRH<br />Middle Pillar<br />GIRH for the Moon<br />Conjuration - Charge - License to Depart (adapt from Warnock book)<br />LBRP or Qabalistic Cross<br /><br />I have only ever done one of Warnock's rituals in my life, but I can't say that it seemed to do very much even though it had a very favorable election behind it. Still, you can't draw much in the way of conclusions from a single operation. <br /><br /><br />Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-74572274219796123342016-08-28T05:15:50.154-05:002016-08-28T05:15:50.154-05:00I got an answer from that guy on the forum. I aske...I got an answer from that guy on the forum. I asked him if he conjures each intelligence through the lunar hierarchy: godname-archangel-intelligence-specific inntelligence from the intelligences.<br /><br />He said he follows Christopher Warnock's Mansions of the Moon booklet. He waits for the Moon to be in the specific mansion, lights 9 candles, speaks the conjurations from the book and awaits for the entity to appear in the dark mirror. He also said the rules of the mansions can be found there.<br /><br />I haven't read that book yet, so I guess I'll try to find it and see what it contains and figure out of it could be adapted to fit a GD style ritual. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-81028027735571233212016-08-27T20:25:39.346-05:002016-08-27T20:25:39.346-05:00Pretty much. And then make sure that you test out ...Pretty much. And then make sure that you test out whatever you get as thoroughly as you can.Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-73011392137744259002016-08-27T14:07:52.485-05:002016-08-27T14:07:52.485-05:00I've read your written dialogue with A L. on t...I've read your written dialogue with A L. on the restored Heptarchy. That's uncharted territory for me :) About the lunar mansions he said an interesting thing - they should have a ruler and said that Malkah-Queen could be that ruler. <br /><br />I guess I'll have to wait for that guy to answer my pm and see if he can share certain procedures. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-46613688547818944672016-08-27T12:20:37.454-05:002016-08-27T12:20:37.454-05:00I am not all that interested in getting involved i...I am not all that interested in getting involved in yet another forum, but from that my guess is the association is probably spurious. A.L. does do some decent scholarly work, but I generally find anything he can't back up with research is usually not anywhere near as useful as he says it is, and not nearly as "obviously true" as he always seems to insist.<br /><br />Two examples: grimoire magick as a form of shamanism, and "restoring" the Heptarchia Mystica. The former is a contention based on equating African religions with the European grimoires only because they share a few spirit names, and the latter is an innovation he came up with that he insists was "the angels' real intent" without any actual evidence that effect.<br /><br />It's not that he doesn't put out some good material, but you have carefully test all of it because nothing is ever as cut and dried as he makes it sound.Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-82205512507411521322016-08-27T11:16:55.559-05:002016-08-27T11:16:55.559-05:00*forum not blog*forum not blogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-85122722572407979422016-08-27T10:56:28.742-05:002016-08-27T10:56:28.742-05:00*but that to him it "it has the ring of truth...*but that to him it "it has the ring of truth"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-9150426455163803542016-08-27T10:39:07.099-05:002016-08-27T10:39:07.099-05:00Well i don't know. Haven't asked him yet. ...Well i don't know. Haven't asked him yet. I asked Aaron Leitch a few days ago, because Brother Moloch said that he (Aaron) could know the answer behind the existence of spirit of spirits and intelligence of intelligences. That was before that guy popped up with the lunar mansion answer. A.L. answered that it doesn't prove it Agrippa was thinking of this when he wrote the grimoire, but that it to him. <br /><br />Here's the link to that conversation in the comments if you're interested:<br /><br />https://aaronleitch.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/personality-and-spirit-communication/#comment-3203<br /><br />I'll PM the guy on the blog and ask him about his view on working with the individual mansion. I'll get back to you with his answer. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-60650129991152058742016-08-27T10:17:17.381-05:002016-08-27T10:17:17.381-05:00So how exactly is that supposed to work, then? The...So how exactly is that supposed to work, then? The idea has some potential, but the lunar mansions taken as a group do not represent any particular powers or spirits. You have correlations between specific spirits and specific mansions, but what good does it do to have a single sigil for all of them?<br /><br />I do know that one of the reasons that you see things like "spirit of spirits" and "intelligence of intelligences" is that when Agrippa published the lore, there was some disagreement in the tradition over which of the names was right for a couple of the planets. Agrippa published it all, leading to some confusion later on.<br /><br />I would expect that the "intelligence of intelligences" and the "spirit of spirits" work like intelligences and spirits respectively, since there wouldn't have been any arguments about it in Agrippa's time if the names didn't all work. None of that rules out the possibility that the lunar mansions could be involved.<br /><br />However, that sounds like the beginning idea for a system, not anything complete. How does this individual propose using the concept with the individual mansions? Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-60924054087528122772016-08-26T11:36:08.477-05:002016-08-26T11:36:08.477-05:00Off topic, but in case I'll forget. Some guy o...Off topic, but in case I'll forget. Some guy on a forum just came up with a great explanation for the intelligence of the intelligences of the Moon - they are of the lunar mansions. Just thought you should know :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com