tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post2950133148472913845..comments2024-03-25T14:09:59.347-05:00Comments on Augoeides: New Apocalypse This Weekend! Scott Stenwickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-32023011235158810942017-10-02T00:10:12.522-05:002017-10-02T00:10:12.522-05:00The deal is that Princes do not have the same plan...The deal is that Princes do not have the same planetary attributions as the Kings, even though they are associated with the same day. I know it's a little weird.<br /><br />The deal is that the Kings and Prince have what I guess you would call a primary and secondary attribution. The primary attribution is the day, and for the Kings, the primary and secondary attributions match. But for the Princes, they don't.<br /><br />So for Bralges - he's primarily associated with Monday (Moon), but his secondary attribution is Saturn. That doesn't mean he goes with Saturday, because the days follow primary attribution.<br /><br />For Brorges - he's primarily associated with Saturday (Saturn), but his secondary attribution is Mercury. Again, he goes with Saturday, because days follow primary attributions.<br /><br />The way I suggest working with the Princes is to treat the day as primary, and the hour as secondary. So the best time to conjure Bralges is during the day of the Moon (Monday) and the hour of Saturn. For Brorges, you want day of Saturn (Saturday) and hour of Mercury.<br /><br />Does that make more sense? I'm looking at how it's laid out in the book and it could have been a little clearer. It's addressed on page 132, second to last paragraph, but I don't mention it in the description of each Prince. That probably would have been better. Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-49635820053667369382017-10-01T17:41:26.149-05:002017-10-01T17:41:26.149-05:00Hi Scott. I'm reading through your Mystical He...Hi Scott. I'm reading through your Mystical Heptarchy book. I'm up to chapter 11, and yet it isn't at all clear to me how the Kings correspond with the Princes on the circular diagram depicting them. I understand the concept behind the angels of the day and how they correspond to the hours of the day and night, but that doesn't seem to relate here. Could you shed some light on this please or direct me to where it explains it in the book unless I've missed it? For example, if I look at the Saturnian angels, I see Bnapsen as king and Bralges as prince. Yet it looks like Brorges is supposed to be his prince, yet I see Brorges in Mercury under Bnaspol. I don't get it.RobertNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14424181842279889227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-24140626477969059992017-09-21T12:24:35.107-05:002017-09-21T12:24:35.107-05:00Yeah, I believe it can be tricky. I mean there are...Yeah, I believe it can be tricky. I mean there are shamans out there who constantly contact some tribal ancestor from a distant time, like a wise and powerful leader. But I guess that link has been created since the time of their life and has been passed on through generations of shamans. And from what I know from studying shamanism, they often result to bargaining and giving offerings to the earthbound spirits so that they would offer him passage and to stay away and allow the spirit of the ancestor to come forth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-72802638910575890672017-09-21T12:02:32.890-05:002017-09-21T12:02:32.890-05:00Sure, that was what Levi thought when he did the c...Sure, that was what Levi thought when he did the conjuration. It is possible that people like Apollonius of Tyana who cultivate a high degree of cognitive coherence (which one might expect from an accomplished philosopher) could retain that after death and still be accessible, kind of like how the Roman Catholic Church teaches that you can work with saints.<br /><br />Most people aren't philosophers and spiritual practitioners, so that doesn't really apply much of the time. I doubt Captain Kidd was either of those things, though it's true that I don't know enough about his personal life to say for sure.<br /><br />Having worked with a lot of earthbound spirits, I also know that they like to impersonate famous people (which is why you see so many New Agers get "contacts" from so-and-so) and they also like to tell you what you want to hear to keep you talking. That's why you always have to test them. Without knowing Levi's full procedure, I have no way of telling whether he did anything of the sort. Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-69413158271155201102017-09-21T09:59:51.049-05:002017-09-21T09:59:51.049-05:00@Robert you're welcome ;)
@enokiano cool!
@S...@Robert you're welcome ;)<br /><br />@enokiano cool!<br /><br />@Scott I'm sure it's hard and I was looking for an opinion, because from what I've read over time there have been such contacts. If I'm not mistaking Levi conjured the spirit of Apollonius of Tyana, and that guy lived centuries before Levi and could've passed on many times since that death. Just a curiosity of mine :) Thanks for the answer!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-81622389898257723812017-09-21T09:52:57.935-05:002017-09-21T09:52:57.935-05:00@Dacia: That is very hard to say. I am by no means...@Dacia: That is very hard to say. I am by no means an expert on this stuff, and somebody else might be able to give you a more definitive opinion. I am pretty sure that it would be substantially more difficult than contacting a spirit that hasn't passed on, but I'm not sure how much more difficult or even how you would compare the two.Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-72776734699210403672017-09-21T08:22:03.911-05:002017-09-21T08:22:03.911-05:00Hi Scott
I want to share here Scott my experience...Hi Scott<br /><br />I want to share here Scott my experience with the 72 angeles of the schemaphorash, it is a long time that I have been working on it, thanks to you Scott to the operating field I have been able to make many advances.It is true that until you find a way many magical experiments fail or not they bring the result you are looking for, in this case if I have found an approach that works very well for me, I have been impressed by the rapidity of the demonstration of the deso, but above all the energy-power combined with a very intense elevation-I never saw very clearly the descent of power with these forces, for me there was something that did not fit, obviously the connection with the zodiac is clear, I have tried the lace of the golden dawn and for example milo duquette and it works perfectly, also if we start since Aries with Vehuiah works, the best thing is that I leave here the invocation that has finally given me very good results and from here you can add things.<br /><br />after making the operant field and opening with zodiacal hexagram: <br />in the Divine name of HHVY and Shaday El Chai and by the name Ayin Resh Yod by the Office of the Angel of Pisces Amnitziel I invoke the sublime presence of Ariel in this Temple Bless with your Presence this Temple.<br /><br />say Psalm and pronounce 3 times the name of the Ariel, trace their secrecy and make petition,when invoking the angel the invocation descends in Yetzirah, normally if you work with the formula of the trigram the operation is very abstract and does not bring results, it is necessary to drive through the zodiacal arcangel,or the zodiacal formula, but at the same time it is very important to pronounce the trigram, for example LA HA VA for Lauviah<br />javierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15460304613941250517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-67421460570073070992017-09-20T20:10:39.639-05:002017-09-20T20:10:39.639-05:00Thank you for the clarification, Scott. And thanks...Thank you for the clarification, Scott. And thanks for the link to the Scorpio zodiacal working as well. Fascinating read. Your Mastering the Mystical Heptarchy books is next on my list to buy and read, though it seems the Scorpio working is based on Cabalistic Angels. <br /><br />Thanks to Dacia for his input as well.<br /><br />I asked this question on another forum on facebook as well, and Aaron Leitch suggested the angels of saturn, which I took to mean Bnapsen and Bralges. Interesting to get the different point of view here.RobertNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14424181842279889227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-61603792632924760772017-09-20T15:49:04.477-05:002017-09-20T15:49:04.477-05:00@Scott about reincarnation. If the spirit of say, ...@Scott about reincarnation. If the spirit of say, Captain Kidd were to be reincarnated as a living being nowadays, would it still be possible to contact its Nephesh (is that it?) part from his Captain Kidd life? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-2248766027594427002017-09-20T15:24:40.942-05:002017-09-20T15:24:40.942-05:00As I understand it, it would include both. The -ma...As I understand it, it would include both. The -mancy suffix refers to divination, that is, the obtaining of information. The word does not actually mean to literally raise the dead, it means communication with the dead by whatever means, either by directly conjuring the spirit or using an intermediary like an angel.<br /><br />While working with an angel does not mean much from the standpoint of the definition, I do think it is a lot more likely to work. Spirits of the dead are usually difficult to conjure, especially if they've been dead awhile. I know there are TV mediums who claim otherwise, but spirits rarely just hang around waiting to talk to people.<br /><br />Some may have reincarnated. Those are often out of reach. Others may be off someplace doing their own thing, which makes it hard to get their attention. And so forth. But basically, working with an angel is like bringing in an expert in whatever the angel's power or sphere of influence happens to be.Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-17914731181651872572017-09-20T12:47:55.004-05:002017-09-20T12:47:55.004-05:00I'm not well versed in this material and only ...I'm not well versed in this material and only now delving into it, but I thought necromancy was actually the attempted raising of the dead or direct contact with their spirit. I thought using an angel as a mediator got around the definition, since contact is made with the angel conveying the messages and information, and not directly with the dead.RobertNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14424181842279889227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-84991910016065567372017-09-20T09:53:12.384-05:002017-09-20T09:53:12.384-05:00Right. Barachiel is the angel of Scorpio, and he i...Right. Barachiel is the angel of Scorpio, and he is attributed to the power of necromancy.<br /><br />http://ananael.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-zodiacal-work-scorpio.htmlScott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-44958455058945344682017-09-20T08:20:56.104-05:002017-09-20T08:20:56.104-05:00Oh, I read "he's Not the right attributio...Oh, I read "he's Not the right attribution" :)) Disregard my last post :))Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-75430259544649618642017-09-20T08:10:50.375-05:002017-09-20T08:10:50.375-05:00So Barachiel is not the angel of Scorpio like in c...So Barachiel is not the angel of Scorpio like in column CLXXVII? I think there was a little misunderstanding here :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-69588545265882109822017-09-20T08:06:58.613-05:002017-09-20T08:06:58.613-05:00Oh, that is right. Brorges, not Bralges. That'...Oh, that is right. Brorges, not Bralges. That's what I get for typing too fast. Barachiel is a traditional Qabalistic angel, but he's got the right attribution. Scorpio is the sign associated with necromancy.Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-16008781251900953272017-09-20T03:21:32.715-05:002017-09-20T03:21:32.715-05:00Sorry for nosing in Scott, but isn't Brorges t...Sorry for nosing in Scott, but isn't Brorges the one with the "gates of death"? I think Bralges is the one "who said the creatures under thy dominion are subject to your power", or something, whatever that means in terms of practical use :) <br /><br />@Rob try Barachiel-Scorpio.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-77276413237242447622017-09-20T00:26:04.992-05:002017-09-20T00:26:04.992-05:00It pretty much is textbook necromancy. However, Br...It pretty much is textbook necromancy. However, Bralges (Heptarchial Prince for Saturday) has the power to "open the gate of death." That sounds at least something like what you're looking for.Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-56315348808871513512017-09-19T17:55:07.267-05:002017-09-19T17:55:07.267-05:00Hi Scott,
Maybe a little off topic, but since you...Hi Scott,<br /><br />Maybe a little off topic, but since you're something of an Enochian expert having written books on the subject, I'm curious if any of the Enochian angels can be implored to convey messages to and from the dead? I asked this on another group, and everyone suggested this had more to do with necromancy. Take care.<br />-RobRobertNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14424181842279889227noreply@blogger.com