tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post5718726957980528887..comments2024-03-25T14:09:59.347-05:00Comments on Augoeides: Zodiacal and Elemental HoursScott Stenwickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-7298779396033294652013-01-03T08:29:39.252-06:002013-01-03T08:29:39.252-06:00@phergoph: In Mastering the Mystical Heptarchy I r...@phergoph: In <i>Mastering the Mystical Heptarchy</i> I recommend using planetary hours in addition to the days for working with the Heptarchial angels. Since the listed planetary attributions are different for the King and Prince, I recommend using the planetary hour based on that attribution on the proper day as given by Dee.<br /><br />I work with the Great Table along elemental lines, and according to Dee the Great Table angels are usually conjured in groups, one from each of the four quadrants. That means relating a Dee-style Great Table operation to a particular element isn't always a good fit, though when it is a system like this one could be employed.<br /><br />@polyphanes: I've used similar arrangements myself assigning the elements along planetary lines, and it seems to be viable enough to do so, especially if you've gotten good results with that method.<br /><br />As far as the zodiacal arrangement being unbalanced, that's actually kind of the point - in Renaissance astrology the diurnal sect is related to the active principle and therefore Fire and Air, while the nocturnal sect is related to the receptive principle and therefore Water and Earth.Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-8150312457021404012013-01-03T07:59:53.822-06:002013-01-03T07:59:53.822-06:00I definitely like the idea of ascribing zodiac sig...I definitely like the idea of ascribing zodiac sign rulerships to the hours, and linking it through the planets makes good sense. However, I've gotten good results through another set of attributions between the planets and elements using Agrippa's Scale of Four, in which Fire is connected to Mars and the Sun, Water to Saturn and Mercury, Air to Venus and Jupiter, and Earth to the Moon. Just another system of attributions, is all; the zodiacal element system also deserves some good experimentation, though it appears a little unbalanced (diurnal hours are almost entirely Fire and Air, nocturnal almost entirely Water and Earth). Now if only I could manage to figure out how John Heydon made up his geomantic hours, I'd be set!polyphaneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15722586209043895045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-44130766025036509522013-01-02T13:08:03.042-06:002013-01-02T13:08:03.042-06:00Do you happen to have any insights on the timing o...Do you happen to have any insights on the timing of enochian magic? It definitely seems to have timing implications, although nothing I've seen which is particularly clear cut.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-80944374493712337492012-12-31T15:10:31.136-06:002012-12-31T15:10:31.136-06:00You're welcome! If you do decide to try this o...You're welcome! If you do decide to try this out in a ritual context, let me know how it goes.Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-18777096904244305372012-12-31T11:23:53.008-06:002012-12-31T11:23:53.008-06:00Your explanation is very clear and very useful. Th...Your explanation is very clear and very useful. Thank you!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17391692070492198969noreply@blogger.com