tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post7011300360062725702..comments2024-03-25T14:09:59.347-05:00Comments on Augoeides: De-Baptism?Scott Stenwickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-60399125186432041132012-01-26T14:16:23.201-06:002012-01-26T14:16:23.201-06:00I always took the Baptism more as a form of Mikveh...I always took the Baptism more as a form of Mikveh, the Jewish ritual bath needed to cleans you of your sin/impurity. the idea of doing this for an infant/child is to give them a clean slate spiritually. Why would a newborn need cleansing? I am sure Catholics/Orthodox would say Original Sin. Im of belief of reincarnation so i would say a cleansing of past transgressions. <br />I also believe that baptisms carry an initiation part to play in the sense that it connects the individual spiritually to everyone else of the same connection. I think someone needs to nurture that connection or else it dies, hence the need in Christianity for going to church, confessions, confirmation, marriage in the church, etc. If someone does not stay up on their connection, i fail to see the need to sever a connection which is already spiritually dead. If ones lack of faith and lack of follow up isnt enough to sever the connection, i fail to see how a piece of paper word :p If someone doesnt believe in the spiritual connection, than the desire to disconnect so bad that they need to sue is likely deep seated in other issues and requires some serious internal digging ;)Hypnovatoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03959801151825593183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-7673093026230983762012-01-26T12:59:56.500-06:002012-01-26T12:59:56.500-06:00I guess this makes sense for adult baptisms. In my...I guess this makes sense for adult baptisms. In my Christian upbringing, a baptism represented a promise made by parents and community, not one made by the child. Now due confirmation...that's what I asked for.magickal_realismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17737192906459006291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-53513159306926568612012-01-26T07:10:26.176-06:002012-01-26T07:10:26.176-06:00The outward sign of the sacrament of baptism is th...The outward sign of the sacrament of baptism is the ritual bathing or sprinkling of water. Through baptism we are initiated by water into the community of believers, an outward sign of the inward reality of our divine spark.<br />Baptism is pre-Christian, being a symbol of initiation and learning dating back perhaps to the cults of Oannes in Sumeria and even to the Vedic cultures of the Indus Valley. It is a tradition that has served to let us grasp on to our own spirituality and consciousness as a member of our community. The concept of St. John the Baptist and his predecessors represents an epic battle against ignorance. They were givers of wisdom, and the knowledge of our ancestors, a human link to a spiritual heritage. But the matter and the reality of baptism itself (res sacramenti), affirms not only the work of exploring and learning for one’s own enlightenment, but as a member of that community, a pledge to learn to foster human development.OSSRDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04293127552093707710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-39753913787562756042012-01-25T19:26:15.715-06:002012-01-25T19:26:15.715-06:00"...we must also take into account the basic ..."...we must also take into account the basic truth that nobody else can do spiritual work for us." ha! That is so their point. I think if you want something done right...Agatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07315348582558555619noreply@blogger.com