tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post8933357727584793078..comments2024-03-25T14:09:59.347-05:00Comments on Augoeides: More on the "Restored Heptarchia"Scott Stenwickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-53973296882844548412017-02-15T04:31:53.537-06:002017-02-15T04:31:53.537-06:00I don't want to conjure elemental kings via th...I don't want to conjure elemental kings via the heptarchical angels, not to I want to switch the powers between the angels :) I just want to understand their powers more, since they are somewhat vague. Unfortunately for me, I don't have the luxury of sitting down and chatting with them for longer than a few minutes, due to macrocosmic issues on which i have little to no control. And before I create the proper conditions, like moving into a more peaceful area in which i would perform rituals without much disturbance, I need to work fast and get results fast. For that I need to use the right spirits for the right issues. <br /><br />I've used at least one heptarchical angel for practical traits generally associated with the planet the angel ow attributed, by day not by hour. Like Brorges for Saturn qualities such as binding and banishing. I was somewhat pleased with the results, but i noticed not all of them can be used that way. Btw I don't think Brorges has anything to do with Fire, unless he creates the setting in which someone dies from burning :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-67255301300230299332017-02-14T18:22:37.710-06:002017-02-14T18:22:37.710-06:00There are a lot of ways you can switch the Heptarc...There are a lot of ways you can switch the Heptarchia around to make the spirit offices superficially match. I just find that it works as is, and it seems to me if the substitutions are so obvious Dee would have made them. He was a very smart guy, after all.<br /><br />Regarding "the earth" referring to rulers and/or elemental kings - I can see an argument there for Earth as the amalgam of the other elements. That's Wednesday in the original arrangement, not Monday. But it is attributed to Mercury which rules Virgo, mutable Earth. On top of that, though, you also have rulers for watery and aerial operations, so those could also be attributed to the elements.<br /><br />You do not have a ruler for Fire - Leitch's claim that "the gate of death" somehow alludes to ruling Fire just because that angel appeared surrounded by flames is a glaring mistake. In fact, given that Leitch is generally a decent scholar, when I read that I wondered if Llewellyn made him re-attribute the scary death spell angel because they didn't want anything that dark in their books. But I suppose I'll never know.<br /><br />Anyway, I can maybe see some associations, but at the same time I'm not clear what you are hoping to do here. Conjure an elemental king by the name of a Heptarchial? Why do that? Also, while I don't follow the GD attributions, I think you can make a better case for the Watchtower Kings to be the Enochian elemental kings, so I would probably just work with them if I were going to do an elemental operation. Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-74769967298135545802017-02-12T18:48:16.321-06:002017-02-12T18:48:16.321-06:00I just came across Nick Farrell's book in whic...I just came across Nick Farrell's book in which he tackles the powers of the angels of the Heptarchia, and he does some adjustments to them - page 52 here:<br /><br />https://books.google.ro/books?id=xFTzCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=heptarchia+mystica+powers&source=bl&ots=9HlMrJP9QS&sig=Fix_S6Y_9jxc8LpmFRpvv16NCBQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmiMWm5ovSAhUF1BoKHVl2Czo4ChDoAQgZMAE#v=onepage&q=heptarchia%20mystica%20powers&f=false<br /><br />I'm not interested in his adjustments, just in the way he interprets certain powers.<br /><br />He states that the king and prince of Monday (his adjustment) have to do with earthly kings, as in real monarchs and nowadays perhaps this extends to rulers in general, such as presidents. <br /><br />But can the earthly kings refer to the kings of the physical realm, aka the elemental kings as we know them today? We previously discussed about the Moon ruling the elements, and I've also found an old source which stated the same - as usual I forgot its name, but it's around the time Dee lived in. So perhaps the angels were refering to the elemental kings which Dee might have known about from the writings of Paracelsus. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-85014416081047726912014-04-03T09:09:02.724-05:002014-04-03T09:09:02.724-05:00That's an interesting thread. I'm going to...That's an interesting thread. I'm going to have to sit down and review it in greater detail. Also, I should take a more careful look at the Pauline Art and see what I think of the similarities between it and the Heptarchial planetary attributions.<br /><br />Thanks for sharing!Scott Stenwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389664381513219613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7294505416127496842.post-61832402640363938292014-04-03T06:02:09.989-05:002014-04-03T06:02:09.989-05:00Maybe there is a deeper purpose on why the planets...Maybe there is a deeper purpose on why the planets of the kings and princes do not match up. As it is on the Talisman (that re-conciliates one to the Table). See:<br /> <a rel="nofollow">http://evocationmagic.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=3219&p=34820&hilit=heptarchy#p34820</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com