Monday, June 25, 2018

The Greater Ritual of the Pentagram

Last week I was corresponding with a reader who was trying to work out how to do the Greater Ritual of the Pentagram from online sources. Apparently, these are a lot more confusing than they need to be, so I figured that for today's magick post I would put up my own explanation of the ritual so that I can point people here and not expect that they can just work it out from other stuff on the Internet that I have no control over. I'll be adding this to my list of ritual instructions as well.

The first and most important thing that you need to understand about the Greater Ritual of the Pentagram is that, as I've written here in a number of places, "Greater" does not mean "awesome" and "Lesser" does not mean "lame." There's a lot of information online from people who treat the Greater Ritual of the Pentagram as a "better" Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram - and that is entirely wrong. The two rituals do two completely different things that should not be conflated.

The Lesser rituals are general or foundational. They are used to set up the base "field" in which you work magick, even when you are working from more traditional methods than my operant field technique. The Greater Ritual of the Pentagram, like the Greater Ritual of the Hexagram, is used to tune that magical space to a particular force or quality. The Greater Ritual of the Pentagram has five traditional forms, four of which correspond to the paths of the four elements and one which corresponds to the sephira of all four elements, Malkuth. Like the planets, the elements can be attributed both sephirothically and by path, but unlike the planets all four elements correspond to the tenth sephira.

This is especially important when you realize that some people use the version of the Greater Ritual of the Pentagram for Malkuth (that is, with all four elemental pentagrams traced to their corresponding directions according to the winds model) as an "upgrade" to the Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram. But this is not the case. The magical power associated with Malkuth is "The Vision of the Holy Guardian Angel, or of Adonai." The Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram is general and foundational, and therefore it is not attributed to a traditional power or vision.

This is not to suggest that the Greater Ritual of the Pentagram for Malkuth is a bad idea for daily practice. Aleister Crowley's Liber Reguli is basically a souped-up Greater Ritual of the Pentagram, and Crowley did teach that beginning students should focus on HGA work. This is very likely the intent of Reguli - to cultivate the vision of the HGA as a preliminary for doing the full HGA invocation found in Liber Samekh. The Greater Ritual of the Pentagram for Malkuth can be used in this way as well, but not as a replacement for the Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram.


The way I teach magick, you would use the following daily practice sequence to obtain the Vision of the Holy Guardian Angel or of Adondai:

1. Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram or Star Ruby
2. Lesser Invoking Ritual of the Hexagram or Star Sapphire
3. Middle Pillar or Elevenfold Seal
4. Greater Invoking Ritual of the Pentagram for Malkuth
5. Meditation.
6. Qabalistic Cross.

Note that whether you use the Thelemic forms or not, the Greater Ritual of the Pentagram is always done the same way. It should also be pointed out that one of the benefits of practicing the Malkuth version is that it teaches you all four of the elemental pentagrams. The other four forms of the ritual are for use with each of the four classical elements. To tune your space to an element, you trace the corresponding elemental pentagrams to all four quarters, starting in the east and moving clockwise.

The Malkuth version of the ritual is performed as follows in the invoking form. All illustrations are from Aleister Crowley's Liber O vel Manus et Sagittae, which is also where you can find this straightforward version of the ritual, and the pentagrams were colorized by me using my mad Microsoft Paint skills.

1. OPENING: If you are performing this ritual as part of sequence that includes the Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram, you do not need to open with the Qabalistic Cross and you can jump right to Step 2. This is much like how you do not need to open the Greater Ritual of the Hexagram with the Keyword Analysis if it follows the Lesser Ritual of the Hexagram. If you are performing this ritual on its own (which you will rarely do), open with the Qabalistic Cross.

2. AIR ELEMENT: In the east, trace the Invoking Pentagram of Active Spirit in bright (electric) purple and vibrate AHIH (Eheieh).


Make the Sign of Rending the Veil by extending your hands in front of you and moving them apart as if opening a heavy curtain.


Then trace the Invoking Pentagram of Air in yellow and vibrate YHVH (Yahweh or Yeh-ho-wau).


Make the Sign of Air by holding your arms up and out, elbows bent at right angles, and wrists bent as if holding up the sky. The corresponding godform is Shu.


3. FIRE ELEMENT: Turn to the south. Trace the Invoking Pentagram of Active Spirit in bright (electric) purple and vibrate AHIH (Eheieh).


Make the Sign of Rending the Veil by extending your hands in front of you and moving them apart as if opening a heavy curtain.


Then trace the Invoking Pentagram of Fire in red and vibrate ALHIM (Elohim).


Make the Sign of Fire by forming an upright triangle with both hands and holding this triangle to your forehead. The corresponding godform is Thoum-aesh-neith.


4. WATER ELEMENT: Turn to the west. Trace the Invoking Pentagram of Passive Spirit in dark (deep) purple and vibrate AGLA (Agla, just like it looks).


Make the Sign of Rending the Veil by extending your hands in front of you and moving them apart as if opening a heavy curtain.


Note that some sources will tell you to make the Sign of Closing the Veil here for Passive Spirit, but this is incorrect. Rending the Veil is for invoking and Closing the Veil is for banishing.

Trace the Invoking Pentagram of Water in blue and vibrate AL (El).


Make the Sign of Water by forming an downward triangle with both hands and holding this triangle to your navel. The corresponding godform is Auramoth.


5. EARTH ELEMENT: Turn to the north. Trace the Invoking Pentagram of Passive Spirit in dark (deep) purple and vibrate AGLA (Agla, just like it looks).


Make the Sign of Rending the Veil by extending your hands in front of you and moving them apart as if opening a heavy curtain.


Trace the Invoking Pentagram of Earth in black or green and vibrate ADNI (Adonai).


Make the Sign of Earth by taking a step forward while you hold your right arm out and up and your left arm back and down. The corresponding godform is Set.


6. CLOSING: Return to face the east, completing the circle. If you opened with the Qabalistic Cross repeat it, but otherwise you're done.

The banishing form uses all banishing pentagrams in the same order, and the Sign of Closing the Veil which is performed by holding your arms out and forward and then bringing your hands together as if closing a heavy curtain. Otherwise it is identical. With the way I teach magick, you won't be using the banishing form very often. If you are conjuring a spirit you want the invoking form, and it is far more effective to work with protective spirits than it is to banish specific energies. Since the elemental spirits rule their respective energies, they have the power to both increase and decrease the effects of those energies.

Much of the difficulty working out how to do this essentially simple ritual is that over the years people have come up with more and more elaborate versions of it, adding elements like Enochian godnames and various additional figures, such as in what is now called the "Supreme Pentagram" - a version that is basically a more-souped-up GRP that as far as I can tell you don't actually need to get good magical results. Before you start working on any of the enhanced version, make sure you know the simple one above. Then you can experiment for yourself and see if those enhancements make much difference in terms of real results.

UPDATE: After discussion on the Ceremonial Magick School group this week and a good conversation at last Tuesday's ritual workshop, there are a couple of other points I can make with respect to the "Supreme Ritual of the Pentagram." Liber Samkeh includes a couple of the elements that are also found in the Stella Matutina SRP. One is the replacement of Rending and Closing the Veil with the LVX signs for the spirit pentagrams. This makes sense in the context of Samekh, as the invocation of the Holy Guardian Angel is closely related to the state of consciousness associated with Tiphareth (to which the LVX signs allude). It seems to me this is less appropriate for a pentagram ritual that is designed to call on specific elements. The moon (Yesod) rules the elemental realm, not the sun (Tiphareth).

In the Lesser Ritual of the Hexagram, the LVX signs are used because the sun rules the macrocosm, whereas the moon rules the microcosm. Ideally you want to be "stepping into" Tiphareth when you do the Lesser Hexagram so that the magical operation you are undertaking aligns with the macrocosm, and in the case of daily practice, so that your ongoing magical work can move beyond the level of simply working with your own mind and subtle body. But again, this does not make it very clear why you would want to be stepping into Tiphareth with the spirit pentagrams when what you are trying to do is work with the elements.

The other point I noticed is that one of the differences between how I teach magick and how most of the Golden Dawn orders teach is that I use hexagram rituals for the signs of the zodiac, as outlined in Crowley's Liber O. The most common GD teaching is to use pentagram rituals for zodiac signs. I can say from personal experience that using the Greater Ritual of the Hexagram for the signs of the zodiac works very well. But perhaps you see things in the SRP like the tracing of the kerub images (which allude to the fixed signs of th zodiac) precisely because in the GD (or more properly, Stella Matutina) system the pentagram ritual, not the hexagram ritual, is expected to do double duty - for both elements and signs.

That might be why this astrological element was added to the ritual, if the original GRP found in Liber O proved less effective for zodiac signs. Personally I wonder if it might not make the most sense to use pentagram rituals for the microcosmic aspects of zodiac signs, like the specific personality traits emphasized in modern astrology, and use the hexagram rituals for the macrocosmic aspects of those same signs, such as the astrological forces emphasized in Renaissance astrology. Conjuring astrological spirits would fall under the latter, and that's most of the zodiacal magick that I do. After all, the macrocosm contains the microcosm, and most of what I do is practical magick.

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39 comments:

enokiano1 said...

Hi Scott

I know that you do not mix the Enochian names with the pentagrams, but the thing is that it works very well, the question Scott is the following one imagines that you do the RSIP with Enochian and Kabbalistic names, once you have projected your Will to the Angels, you would do as in the operational field? that is to say only the cabalistic cross without carrying out other exiles like the superior ritual of banishing of spirit and of the element,I mean the Enochian angels or cabalistic angels are not hostile and we could do as in the operational field,what do you think Scott?

Scott Stenwick said...

One of the main reasons that I do not mix those is that my Enochian system is based on the Dee attributions, not the GD ones. My elemental attributions for the Kings, therefore, don't match, and that makes it difficult to use with my system. If you do in fact do GD Enochian, I can see where it could be effective. I just don't want to learn two different systems for doing the same thing.

I would use the SIRP just like I use the GIRP. I think it's kind of telling that there's a document out there that (I think) is from the Stella Matutina. It's just called "The Ritual of the Pentagram" and the only version it discusses is the SRP. So I think it's reasonable to suggest that the Stella Matutina might have replaced the GIRP with the SIRP, which implies that they do the same thing.

And yes, I would end a ritual employing the SIRP exactly the same. I would dismiss the spirits with the license to depart, and then close with either another LBRP (if I want to bind the effect into a talisman or send it out into the world to accomplish something) or just another Qabalistic Cross if I want some of the effect to be anchored to my sphere of consciousness.

Unknown said...

Hello Scott,

Just wanted to say that I've gotten so much practical information and clarification from your writings, especially on the planetary workings. Thank you for providing such detailed explanations!

One question - Shouldn't the last two passive pentagrams of spirit be followed by the closing of the veil, rather than the opening of the veil as in the first two active pentagrams?

From Liber O: "Extend the hands in front of you, palms outwards, separate them as if in the act of rending asunder a veil or curtain (actives), and then bring them together as if closing it up again and let them fall to the side (passives)."

I haven't yet attempted this one so would appreciate knowing the distinction.

Scott Stenwick said...

Having experimented with both versions, I found that it makes more sense to rend the veil for invocations and close the veil for banishings, regardless of active versus passive. Feel free to try both versions and see what works best for you, though. What I publish here is what I have found works the best for me, but I don't have anywhere near a large enough sample size to say whether it works that way for everyone.

After obtaining my experimental results, I rationalized it thus - how does it make sense to close the veil when you are invoking an element? It seems a lot more logical to me that when you are invoking energies of whatever sort you want the channel of manifestation, the flow of mezla, or however you want to think about it to be open rather than closed. I'm not sure how teachers who do it the other way explain why they do it that way.

master bates said...

@scott,I was wondering whether this GIRP could be used to further tune the field in the planetary and zodiacal invocations. For example, when invoking mars or Aries,then between the operant field and the GIRH of mars, perhaps it would increase the effectiveness of the ritual, to do a GIRP of the element of fire?

Scott Stenwick said...

It does not quite work like that, but you can combine them as long as you are not trying to call in two forces at the same level - two elements, two planets, two signs, etc. What you can do, though, is something along the lines of GRH - Aries followed by GRH - Mars to tune the space to Mars in Aries. I've been looking into this recently as it seems relevant to how the Lemegeton demons are classified in Liber 777 with both a zodiacal key scale and a planetary attribution.

Likewise, if you wanted the fiery part of Mars, you could go with GIRH - Mars followed by GIRP - Fire. And, all the way down the line, if you wanted the fiery part of Mars in Aries you could use GIRH - Aries, GIRH - Mars, and GIRP Fire. Remember, though, that you always start at the top and work down. And if you are working with the spirits of Mars, not the spirits of Fire, tuning the space to Fire after Mars isn't going to help your ritual. If anything, it's going to limit it because even though the fiery part of Mars is the strongest you still are limiting it to fire-part-only because of the additional (and in my opinion unnecessary) tuning.

TYRANNUS said...

@Scott - Thanks for this post. Just curious, but would you ever use the GRP to invoke a particular element as opposed to all of them?

Scott Stenwick said...

That is most of what you use it for, in fact. You do your opening and preliminary invocation, and then use the GRP or GRH to tune your space to the force you are working with. The version with all four elements is for Malkuth, and while it's useful as a daily practice (in part because it teaches you all four elemental pentagrams) you wouldn't use it for anything practical beside HGA work (Malkuth is "The Vision of the Holy Guardian Angel or of Adonai"). For any of the practical elemental powers, you just use the pentagram for the element that you are working with.

TYRANNUS said...

@Thanks, Scott!

master bates said...

@scott, assuming that I used this daily praxis and achieved the goal of the vision of the HGA,I take it that the next step toward full k&c of the HGA would be to work up the ladder to yesod and achieve the spiritual experience and similarly through hod and netzach until Tiphareth. If that's the case would this same template be used, but employing the appropriate planetary GIRH instead of the GIRP?

Scott Stenwick said...

The sort answer there is yes. For a longer answer, check out my Path of Initiation articles. Since it's blogger it displays them in reverse order, but everything is laid out in those posts including the pentagram and hexagram rituals according to how I understand them to work all the way up the Tree.

https://ananael.blogspot.com/search/label/path%20of%20initiation

master bates said...

@scott, is there any particular reason that the Archangels are not invoked in this version of the GIRP, or is it simply to avoid repetition after performing the LBRP?

Scott Stenwick said...

You would not want to call them all if you are working with a single element. You tune with the GRP for a single-element operation, and then call the corresponding archangel when you do the conjuration. Raphael for Air, Michael for Fire, Gabriel for Water, Auriel for Earth.

I suppose if you wanted to add the archangels section from LRP to the Malkuth version, which calls on all four elements, you could probably do that without messing anything up. But otherwise you don't want all four.

Unknown said...

Hello Scott! thanks for the post! concerning your daily routine for beginner that you recomend: is there no need to do a banishing ritual for each of the invoking pentagram and hexagram rituals? greetings, chris

Scott Stenwick said...

No, there is not, at least the way I do it. Some teachers will tell you otherwise.

Even though I use GD-style rituals extensively, the overall template is more like what you will find in chaos magick rather than the traditional GD sequence. What I do is invoke everything I'm going to invoke, and then either (A) close with just a general pentagram banishing (like LBRP or Star Ruby) to separate the form I've just created from my aura/sphere of sensation (akin to chaos magicians "banishing by laughter") or (B) close with just a Qabalistic Cross (either version) to "consume" the form by sealing it into my sphere of sensation.

When using the Malkuth form of the GRP (all four elements) as part of daily practice I want the energy to stay with me so I close with Qabalistic Cross only.

The traditional GD method is to work "up" by invoking everything and then work back "down" by banishing everything you invoked. It's unwieldy, and according to the experimental data I've compiled over the years it also is less effective in straight probability terms.

Shakes said...

Hi Scott
Thank you for wealth of infos.
In my case i do this sequences daily:
In the morning I start with:
QC
LIRP
LIRH
GRI 0r SRIP
Middle Pillar
In the evening:
LBRP
LBRH
And sometimes I add an invoking of: SIRP ( depending on the situation faced with)
My questions are:
Do I have to say: license to depart after the SIRP?
How to tell that the spirits are present? Cause I don’t feel anything or see anything in my room.
Can the SIRP can be used for financial troubles ( I mean to bring in financial stability?)
I have been doing GD magic for almost 2 years now so far my life is coming together
Is it possible to summon the Undine at physical appearance using the SIRP with Water pentagrams only?

Scott Stenwick said...

I treat the GRP and SRP as pretty much the same ritual in terms of how they work. Some people claim that the SRP is more powerful with the additional godnames and so forth, but I never have noticed much of a difference myself. I eventually went a different direction with the Enochian system than what the GD did, so I dropped the SRP entirely from my own practice.

The sequence I use is different than yours in other ways too. I realize you're not necessarily asking for a critique, but for context:

LBRP of Star Ruby
LIRH or Star Sapphire
MP or Elevenfold Seal (from Liber Reguli)

That's basis of what I do. The GIRP/SIRP or GIRH comes after the Middle Pillar. Greater/Supreme rituals are related to specific forces/aspects, and I do all of my specific work following the general opening.

Even the GRIP/SIRP with all four elements has a specific attribution - it is related to Malkuth and the Vision of the Holy Guardian Angel according to Liber 777. Since HGA work is fine as part of your daily practice, you can use it without any issues but to me it makes sense for it to follow all of the general work.

If I'm using a Greater ritual following the MP, I then close with a final Qabalistic Cross.

As to your questions: No, you don't need a license to depart when using any of these rituals. You only need a license to depart if you are conjuring a specific spirit to obtain information or perform a task.

You can use various means to tell whether spirits are present. But with the basic rituals, it generally comes down to a feeling of purity or cleanliness for banishing and a feeling of "holiness" for invoking. There is unfortunately no certain objective test.

When conjuring individual spirits you have some recourse to techniques like scrying or travel in the spirit vision, and in that context you can test whether a vision is objective in some sense by asking for things like numbers and words of power, and then checking their gematria to see if they are in harmony with the advice given or the nature of the spirit or task.

GIRP/SIRP-Earth can be used as part of a ritual to conjure a spirit like Ghob, Elemental King of Earth, whose sphere of influence includes financial matters.

I would say that if your life is coming together, that's evidence that the spirits are present and the rituals are doing their job.

GIRP/SIRP-Water is what you would use to conjure a spirit like an undine. You certainly should be able to see them via scrying or spirit vision, though I'm not sure that you can get them to the sort of visible appearance that would be detectable by a camera. I think if that were easy to do videos of it would be all over the internet. I have seen some photographed examples of shapes forming out of incense smoke that suggests the shape of a spirit, but that's the closest anybody seems to have gotten. Fortunately, it is not necessary to physically see the spirit in order to deliver a charge and get results.

Shakes said...

Hi Scott

Thank you so much for the prompt reply, and im definetky coming back for for more questions and criticism.

but how do you find my schedule of work as follow:
in the morning:
LIRP
LIRH,
GRIP or SIRP or SIRH ( depending on the issues faced with)
MP
in the evening
LBRP
LIRH
GIRP
MD and somtimes or twice a week i do the RC= Rose Cross
Im open to criticism please go ahead.

Scott Stenwick said...

Personally, I teach that you can dispense with the morning invocation/evening banishing cycle once you move beyond the Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram. With the LRP it's important to do both banishing and invoking, because all you really do with banishing alone is to purify and calm your body of light over and over again. It's helpful if you're stressed and can relax you, but otherwise it isn't going to do much as far as energizing your aura or elevating your consciousness.

So for all my practice session, morning or evening, I open with LBRP/LIRH (which I call the operant field). You're clearing your microcosmic sphere of sensation, and then invoking the macrocosmic forces of nature into the same space. Most people who try it find that it improves all magical operations.

The Middle Pillar is still a general operation and I would place it ahead of the GIRP/SIRP and GRIH/SRIH. The Greaters and the Supremes are specific rituals used to tune your practice or operation to a particular aspect, whereas the Regardie MP is general - it activates all the energetic points on the middle pillar of the tree with the godname appropriate to it.

Apparently Regardie based his version on a Felkin ritual that involved bringing a single godname appropriate to your operation down the points of the middle pillar. So for a Tiphareth operation, for example, you would vibrate YHVH Eloah ve-Daath six times for all of the points. That version would be specific, and would follow the GRIP/SRIP and/or GIRH/SIRH.

I don't really use the Rose Cross ritual in my practice, but I don't see anything wrong with it if it works for you. Again, though, it's a general ritual and should probably follow the LIRH. I would put it ahead of the Middle Pillar.

Finally, since you're tuning your space to a specific energy with the Greater/Supreme rituals I would close with a final Qabalistic Cross to center and re-ground the energies. You may be doing this as part of your Greater/Supreme rituals already, because I know those are taught like that sometimes.

I teach that you don't need the Keyword Analysis with the GRH/SRH if it is preceded by the LRH, and that you don't need the Qabalistic Cross with the GRP/SRP if it is preceded by the LRP. You do, however, want a closing Qabalistic Cross after everything to seal the practice.

So here's how I would do it if you want to keep to the same general idea:

Morning

LBRP
LIRH
MP
[GIRP/SIRP] - Optional.
[GIRH/SIRH] - Optional. If you do both, pentagram should precede hexagram.
QC

Evening

LBRP
LIRH
[Rose Cross] - Optional.
MP
GIRP
QC

As with everything, if it works it works. Feel free to experiment and if my suggestions don't work as well as what you're doing now keep going the way you're going.

Rama Sai said...

Thank you
I will do your style for 30days days and night and i will come back with feed back

master bates said...

@Scott. So what is the difference between the SIRP & the GIRP which you have here?

Scott Stenwick said...

The Supreme Ritual of the Pentagram (SIRP) is basically a Greater Ritual of the Pentagram that has been expanded by adding zodiacal symbols and the names of the Enochian kings according to the Golden Dawn element attributions.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3665692/Golden-Dawn-The-Supreme-Banishing-Ritual-of-the-Pentagram

I don't work with personally because my Enochian attributions are different for the Kings, but as far as I can tell it works the same way that the GRP does.

Rama Sai said...

How long does it take to manifest The Vision of the Holy Guardian Angel?
If you have been working magic/ Golden Dawn system of magic... LRP+ LRH+ MP+ SIRP GRP etc.. and even the SRH.
How long will it take to have a communication with your holly Guardian?

Scott Stenwick said...

That question is hard to answer for any particular individual because it can vary a lot.

Some background: There are two versions of the Abramelin working, which was the inspiration for modern methods like Aleister Crowley's Liber Samekh. One version of the text states that you can establish the knowledge and conversation of the HGA in six months, and the other version says that it takes eighteen.

Liber Samekh is set up to run on the six month timeframe, since that was the manuscript Crowley used as a reference. When I did the HGA working it took me about six months of daily work, but I had been doing daily practices for many years at that point.

The other factor is that if you're talking about the vision of the HGA rather than full knowledge and conversation - the magical power attributed to Malkuth - my guess is that it should take less than the six months because it is more of a preliminary contact that shouldn't take as long.

The complication with respect to my personal practice is that I never took up the "supreme" rituals as part of my practice. I don't know if those might speed anything up for you. I doubt they would for me because I don't use the GD Enochian system attributions at all, and in fact having to switch systems like that probably would slow my progress down.

So there are a lot of factors. I think I can say less than six months with some degree of confidence based on the Abramelin and Samekh timelines along with my own personal experience. But how much less is harder for me to say.

Dacia Pacea said...

@Rama Sai I recommend you add some kind of prayer and invocation to the angel after doing the SIRP, and asking it to appear to you in a way favourable to you - astral vision, dreams, scrying device etc. I think it should make the process quicker.

Rama Sai said...

Thank you for your response i will add the7 conjuration of the archangels and daily invocation see how it goes.

Scott Stenwick said...

I second the suggestion from Dacia regarding a specific invocation of the HGA as part of your daily practices. I did K&C years ago and I still do a brief HGA invocation myself as part of my ceremonial practices to this day.

Shakes said...

Hi Scott Stenwick

Could you please tell me more about the SIRP? its said that it is The SIRP is used to charge up your body, mind, and spirit with a high-concentration of the energy of the elements.
I have been doing for almost 8 months but not daily i do it some times 3xtimes a week and i do the SIRH or GIRP.
Still i dont feel the energy? How come?
so the purpose is just to fill your body with energy thats all? how can it help me to harness and accumulate magical power?

Scott Stenwick said...

The SIRP is basically a GIRP with the Golden Dawn Enochian names added. It's especially appropriate for working with the elements if you are doing Golden Dawn Enochian, which I don't personally use. That's the main reason I work with the GRP. Aside from the Enochian, the two rituals should work the same.

"The SIRP is used to charge up your body, mind, and spirit with a high-concentration of the energy of the elements."

I don't know that this is a correct interpretation of what the ritual does. The GRP with all four elements tunes the magical field you are working with to Malkuth, which is suitable for HGA work. It's calling the elements together in a balanced configuration, which doesn't necessarily charge you with energy on its own.

What's your full ritual sequence? LBRP/LIRP/MP/SIRP/QC is what I would recommend if you're using this ritual daily. Also - you might need to do it daily for a couple of weeks to "get into the groove" of it, so to speak. I find that 3x a week seems to be sufficient, but about the minimum, to maintain results with the daily work, but that could be once you get going on a solid schedule. I tend to be real diligent when starting a practice and then taper off a bit, so I may not have noticed you need to do it more often when starting out or something like that.

enokiano1 said...

Hi Scott

there is the technique of opening a sigil, simply the picture of the sigil for the spirit, a candle and an incense perhaps as an offering, here there is no RSIP is a very direct method, and extremely powerful. Why is this?
the circle around the sigil seems to create a border between the Magician and the spirit,I saw this technique through ea koetting, but I see that it is really similar to what we do only that it is very direct - I do not think it is an evocation - I have realized that this can be done with the 72 angels of the schemphaforash and really with any spirit.
Why is Scott so simple, from the theoretical point of view of Magic?

Scott Stenwick said...

First off, you would not use the GIRP or SIRP unless you are working specifically with Malkuth (all four elements) or one of the classical elements.

Second, I have been convinced for a long time that the reason the traditional grimoire movement happened at all - where you just use sigils, prayers, and offerings - was because the Golden Dawn method as taught basically kneecaps your spirit with the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Hexagram when you close your circle. That means you can drop that series of forms and see better results.

I my Enochian books, the ritual template I use can include the ceremonial forms (pentagram, hexagram, etc.) But they don't have to. You can do a simpler method with just the Enochian equipment, prayers, and the spirit's talisman. Dee doesn't mention offerings but you can do those too and they help.

That being said, I do think that at least with my methods the forms improve results, and I have tested both versions and compared them. The operant field is not a boundary so much as it is a space within which the microcosm and macrocosm merge together and therefore where magical operations will work more efficiently. It actually is the Table of Art that "contains" the spirit, at least how I do it.

Possibly a field set up by LBRP/LBRH (banish-banish) acts like a boundary, which could be one more reason why the full Golden Dawn sequence is less effective. I'm not sure about that, though - I don't use it for practical operations, I use the operant field because it produces better results.

Also - you can call the spirit into yourself rather than into a containment structure. That's what modern magicians mean when we talk about "invocation" and "evocation" even though the grimoire folks don't like the terminology because it's Golden Dawn. Personally, though, I find evocation is cleaner - the manifestation of the force happens in an external space. Especially if you're casting something negative, it makes it easier to work without "getting any on you" so to speak. Also, even with positive magick, that "slippage" will reduce the amount of magical force reaching your target.

Here's an experiment to try. Do one of these simple operations by itself and record the result. Then do the same ritual, but open with the operant field (LBRP/LIRH) and close with the Qabalistic Cross - no other ceremonial forms, just those to "bookend" your operation. If the latter doesn't make it more effective because of the field I'll be surprised. I've had a number of folks who usually do simple stuff try that experiment and most see a definite improvement.

enokiano1 said...

Hi Scott

the experiment with a spirit of goetia Bune, has been very intense only sigil, candle and incense, simply in my case the kabalistic cross, there has been no banishing, operant fields, I perform a meditation before starting and then I only focus on objective I put the excitement of having achieved that desire and called Bune for example then could use symbolic elements to push that desire to the material plane
At first I was skeptical, but I recognize that it is very powerful, from my point of view it is a door to the realm of the spirit, in the astral plane, maybe this technique is useful to use when you do not have so much time,

Scott Stenwick said...

Definitely so. You certainly can use simpler procedures to get the attention of spirits and send them out to do stuff, especially if you are making offerings.

The fields and so forth are more to attune your personal spiritual power to that of the spirit. The most powerful operations happen when your energy and that of the spirit combine. So you can send a spirit to do something as per this simple grimoire-style procedure, use nothing more than your own power when casting something like a chaos magick sigil, or use something like my procedure to get the combined effect of your own power and that of the spirit.

But when you don't have a lot of time, both the simple grimoire procedure and the chaos magick sigil procedure are faster. So that can be a factor in which method you use.

Akairyuu said...

Hi Scott.

I have to say, this blog is amazing; learned a lot from it already.

Anyway, so I started HGA work doing LBRP, LIRH, MP, GIRP, QC and a few interesting things came through including what I presumed to be a spirit/angel. I tested the spirit as you suggested by vibrating Eheieh (The vision got stronger) and asking for a number. The number 47 came through 2 or 3 times during the meditation. I also noticed 12:47 on my phone clock sometime after the ritual.

Do you have any insights on this number (I also saw another commenter mention 47 while scrolling through another page here) or any suggestions for online sources where I can research this number?

Thank you

Scott Stenwick said...

The standard sources I use for looking up numbers for gematria are Sepher Sephiroth (include in the Weiser edition of 777) and Godwin's Cabalistic Encyclopedia. 47 is prime, so we don't need to worry about factoring it.

Summing the digits using Nine Chambers method yields 74 --> 11 --> 2. 11 is the number of magick, 2 is Chockmah. Good so far, but a lot of numbers sum to that.


Sepher Sephiroth has:

AVYL - foolish, silly.
BKYYH - a weeping.
BMH - cloud, high place, waves, fortress.
YVAL - angel ruling virgo.
HLT - to clutch, hold.

Godwin's has:

atomic number of silver.
AYM - 30th name of shem-ha-mephorash.
KY TVB - that it was good.
MBH - 14th and 55th names of the shem-ha-mephorash.
VYAL - angel ruling 6th house.
YVAL - joel (biblical name).

The trick with this is to identify something relevant that is unlikely to have come from your own imagination. For example, is Virgo and/or the 6th house prominent in your astrological chart? That might one way to get started with this set of associations.

Dacia Pacea said...

@Ajairyuu in case Scott hasn't answered yet - Sepher Sephiroth: scroll way down to where the Scale numbers are. See if anything relating to #47 rings a bell

https://hermetic.com/crowley/libers/lib500

@Scott about this: some time ago I saw one of Birch's live videos. He looked at his phone at one time saying his battery is at 93% and he said "that's Thelemic". Ever since then I've been seeing my battery being at 93% very often, as well as seeing 93 in some other places. I know about 93 in Thelema and what it means. I've also looked up Sepher Sephiroth and I got a few hints from what's there.

This is not exactly a question, but I wonder if something or someone is pointing me towards becoming a Thelemite :) To be honest I find its doctrine very similar to my own, and even though I personally don't care about Crowley as a person, what he did, what is said he might have done etc, I really feel a strong connection to him. I don't want to go into speulculation as to why that might be thought, but I have a few suspicions.

Akairyuu said...

Thanks very much, Scott.

That's really interesting and helpful.

Before I started this formula (I was learning Operant Field previously), I did hear 'Chockmah' but disregarded it as imagination/ego; perhaps it was more relevant than I first thought.

I am also happen to be a Virgo rising so that could also be a factor.

I'll definitely take note of anymore messages that come through and do more research.

Thanks for your help

Dacia Pacea said...

@Akairyuu I hope Scott won't mind me intervening :)

Chockmah is zodiac and you got a message pointing to your rising sign, possibly. You could check out the second part of Ars Paulina and find the angel of the degree of your Ascendant - he's one of your guardian angels. You'll find the instructions for contacting the angel in there.

http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/paulina.htm

Akairyuu said...

Thanks a lot, starting to make sense :)

I also got an instruction today in my meditation to look up 9 when I was testing spirit, checked my 9th House and there's my sun so it seems I was pointed towards a second guardian angel.

At least now I have a better idea of what direction I should be going in and how to work with the info.

Thanks again Scott & Dacia :)!